Answer for: Things I Will Never Spend My Money On

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I'll just take the Roses....

 

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TheDevilHimself Member (Level 6): 8,735 points   1 year ago

In America, our money goes to the purchase of guns all the time, whether we like it or not.

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hobbit Member (Level 6): 11,336 points   1 year ago

I am talking personal purchase... what my government does I cant influence directly... but I would never go and buy a gun for personal defence..

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MDAdams Member (Level 6): 6,258 points   1 year ago

@Hobbit: Do you believe self defense, conceptually, is morally acceptable?

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hobbit Member (Level 6): 11,336 points   1 year ago

in the line of work (police, etc) yes. I have never been supportive of taking law into ones own hands. I rather secure my house up to the chimney... with an instant link to a security company if I am that nervous.

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MDAdams Member (Level 6): 6,258 points   1 year ago

No, I mean, do you believe it's morally acceptable, or even a duty to defend oneself once attacked? Police, security services, etc. only can come afterwards to take fingerprints and blood samples. And draw a chalk silhouette around the body.

And this is not specific to firearms. If you were attacked by an intruder, and you happened to have a baseball bat within reach, would you pick it up and defend yourself?

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holotone Member (Level 7): 44,867 points   1 year ago

http://grupthink.com/topic/9786 :)

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MDAdams Member (Level 6): 6,258 points   1 year ago

TDH: I think that could be said about *every* country in existance.

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hobbit Member (Level 6): 11,336 points   1 year ago

if I would defend myself is actually attacked... sure... if I would be able to... I am no good at it. but yes, initially if someone would attack me I'd try to get free and run as fast as possible... one thing you get taught early in life as a woman... you hardly ever win against a man... best thing if you feel in danger... run as fast as you can somewhere more safe then you are right now... no point waiting for the challenge. Same thing we got taught in prison and it's a basic rule for the armed forces... try to get somewhere save and ask for backup.

its my best advice to anyone... run... it doesn't make anyone a wimp!

if you cant... every situation is different... it's hard to pass judgment about ones reaction outside that.

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MDAdams Member (Level 6): 6,258 points   1 year ago

Hobbit: If you and I were together, say going to a movie (hypothetically), and we were attacked... would you consider it appropriate, or even my duty, to defend you? (I know I'm annoying you with this relentless questioning, but I'm trying to understand the parameters of your philosophy on this point).

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hobbit Member (Level 6): 11,336 points   1 year ago

what movie?

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hobbit Member (Level 6): 11,336 points   1 year ago

SORRY, couldn't help it.

depending.. we see the trouble coming...I'd suggest to run... if close to restaurant or similar in there...if you would be attacked I'd try to divert the attention and then hope you make a run for it... this always depends on the number of attackers and the progress of the attack... to hypothetical to find a satisfying conclusion here... I would not see it anyones duty to defend me... the only duty is to defend those that can not defend themselves. children, people that can't walk etc...

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MDAdams Member (Level 6): 6,258 points   1 year ago

Movie = August Rush (haven't seen it yet, but have heard good things about it)

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hobbit Member (Level 6): 11,336 points   1 year ago

I'll bring the tissues!

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