US Torture Bill Signed Into Law - Your Thoughts?

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http://sfgate.com/cg.../&auth=48
http://thestar.com.m...=Worldupdates

George W. Bush got what he wanted, ostensibly as a tool in his unfocused "war on terror": By signing into law the Military Commissions Act of 2006, Bush has made it legal for the C.I.A. to continue operating torture facilities in undisclosed, foreign countries, and for the writ of habeas corpus to be suspended for individuals who are designated "enemy combatants" against the U.S. (Designated by whom? That question remains unanswered.) The law also "establishes military tribunals that would allow some use of evidence obtained by coercion [that is, torture], but would give defendants access to classified evidence being used to convict them."

The provisions of Bush's new torture law mean that Americans have lost the key, constitutional right on which Anglo-American criminal law (and criminal-law procedures in true democracies in general) is founded; that's the basic right of an individual to know why he or she is being apprehended and detained. Now, technically, as in Stalin's Soviet Union, Hitler's Germany, Mao's China or Pol Pot's Cambodia, anyone labeled an "enemy combatant" - again, by whom; by Bush? - can be whisked away and never heard from again. That kind of authority, in the hands of corrupt or untruthful politicians, may or may not be an effective tool in some kind of "war on terror," but it certainly can be a useful tool when it comes to silencing their opponents.

Your thoughts?

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We are all fucked.

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We should just bend over now.

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The Government should be afraid of the Populus

not the other way around. This administration is turning this country into that which we have fought against for over 200 years. ... [show more]

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They've legalized something they've done anyway for years.

Since well before we were born. And that doesn't mean we get apathetic about it, we just accept the reality.

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Making it illegal to do something that is illegal is pointless.

At least one Japanese Soldier was hung for water boarding American Soldiers. So I don't see how a new law was needed.

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What's the worry?

The Democrats will take over and all our problems will be over! Won't they?

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How fantastic.

oh, what an amazing country we've become... suspending the rights of those we feel "sorry" for by legalizing horrific torture meth... [show more]

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Do they do it to our soldiers and our people?

Have they decapatated our people on TV - daniel pearl, nick burg ... have they used ieds to kill our soldiers, then put the pictur... [show more]

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Undecided

I think I'll read more facts if I can find them. So right now, undecided.

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Skrrrriti 2 years ago

can I say "Not surprised, but very disheartened" for multiple polls?

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uewebawo 2 years ago

holo: just to clarify, the text of the bill defines "enemy combatant" as anyone the president declares to be an enemy combatant.

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holotone 2 years ago

Olbermann: The Beginning Of The End For America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs

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holotone 2 years ago

Hasta La Vista, Habeas Corpus:
http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/55645

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jody 2 years ago

Good page to watch as this unfolds: http://en.wikipedia....s_Act_of_2006

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