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What do you think of the proposed parking fine changes downtown?

Started by Jamsterson

2 years ago

The Missoula Parking Commission is looking at increasing parking fines in order to generate additional revenue for more bonding capacity to develop additional parking structures in Downtown Missoula. They also would like to increase turnover of people that abuse on-street metered parking by parking in front of businesses all day. Some people feel that raising the initial $2 ticket to $5 will make Downtown Missoula unfriendly for customers and that there are better ways to accomplish these goals.

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1.	24 votes 468 pts	Raise it. $3 more shouldn't make a big difference. What's the fuss? We're talking $3 here. 8 Comments
2.	11 votes 206 pts	Turn Downtown Into A Walking Mall! a) Solves the parking problem b) Reduces traffic accidents c) Adds another element to Missoula's unique mystique (read: more tourism dollars) d) Encourages alternative transportation. Everyone is a winner! 3 Comments
3.	8 votes 153 pts	Leave 1st ticket at $2, $10 second offense This will discourage repeat abusers and still have a friendly feel for tourists and occasional shoppers who shop longer than anticipated. 1 Comment
4.	8 votes 152 pts	Provide "Quick Stop" spaces Like on campus -- for people who want to run in and out quickly. Could have a higher fine for violating the 30-min maximum? Discuss
5.	7 votes 123 pts	FREE Park 'n Rides with frequent Bus Loop through DT + UM Get more vehicles out of DT, and more people out and about. Set up FREE Park 'n Ride lots with continuous bus loop between set hours connecting lots through DT and UM. Add more, like at West Broadway for visitors, commuters, wandering shoppers, students, etc. Walk or hop the bus and pay only that fare.... [show more] Get more vehicles out of DT, and more people out and about. Set up FREE Park 'n Ride lots with continuous bus loop between set hours connecting lots through DT and UM. Add more, like at West Broadway for visitors, commuters, wandering shoppers, students, etc. Walk or hop the bus and pay only that fare. Put Walk, Bus, Bike into action more often and get Sustainable Missoula. Leave meter parking for convenience and pay for it. Let's do something that works soon. [show less] 3 Comments
6.	7 votes 123 pts	Create a Prolonged Parking Fine Keep the $2 ticket as is. But if a person leaves the car for additional 3 hours after the first ticket then tack on a prolonged parking fine of $15. That way you target the people that are abusing the system. While not punishing those who were running late. 2 Comments
7.	6 votes 116 pts	Leave it at two bucks! Two bucks is exactly the right amount. Discuss
8.	5 votes 90 pts	Costs more to follow the law than it does to break it! Why would I spend money feeding a parking meter all day long when I can just park in the spot all day for $5.00? Doesn't make sense to have a law where it is cheaper to pay the fine than to actually follow the law in my opinion. 2 Comments
9.	4 votes 69 pts	Improve Enforcement You can raise revenue by simply writing more tickets, being more 'aggressive' about enforcing the $2 fine. 1 Comment
10.	3 votes 51 pts	Alternative: Stop waiving fines for out-of-state cars When I first moved here I got countless notes saying "You're forgiven! Missoula loves it's out-of-state visitors." I didn't even have to pay the $2 tickets until I finally registered my car in Montana. I mean sure, this policy is nice (it seems that these waivers are given to in-staters as well... [show more] When I first moved here I got countless notes saying "You're forgiven! Missoula loves it's out-of-state visitors." I didn't even have to pay the $2 tickets until I finally registered my car in Montana. I mean sure, this policy is nice (it seems that these waivers are given to in-staters as well during the holiday shopping season), but it'd be nicer to stop doing this in favor of keeping fines low. [show less] 1 Comment
11.	1 votes 20 pts	Paying for positive change? I dont mind seeing the fees raise, as long as, the additional revenue will be put back into the community developing positive change. I would like to see the parking commission post a list of how and what they plan on using the additional revenue for. Discuss
12.	1 votes 20 pts	Welcome shoppers, target abusers to increase revenue. The current parking fine structure would work IF it were enforced. We have increasing fines for parking abusers and could adjust those "penalty" fines if needed for more effectiveness. The new proposal targets shoppers inordinately, and still does not enforce the new (or existing) rules to fine... [show more] The current parking fine structure would work IF it were enforced. We have increasing fines for parking abusers and could adjust those "penalty" fines if needed for more effectiveness. The new proposal targets shoppers inordinately, and still does not enforce the new (or existing) rules to fine abusers more money. The system can accomplish this if there is a willingness to use it effectively. Enforcement is key! The concern of downtown businesses is that the casual shopper will not put enough money in the meter the first time and underestimate their visit duration. We want that customer to get a gentle reminder to feed the meters, NOT a PENALTY, that will cause some shoppers to avoid downtown. [show less] Discuss

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39 grupies have voted on one or more of the 12 answers. This topic was started by Jamsterson

on April 13th, 2007. Tags: downtown, fine, parking

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Jamsterson

2 years ago

There's a public discussion of the proposed policy changes on Tuesday, April 17, 7-10pm at the Holiday Inn Parkside.

Tindriel

2 years ago

I just surfed over here from http://missouladowntown.com/ - I love how the top votes are in the other site.

I wish there was a way to cut and paste a grup think poll and put it into your own webpage - kind of like what YouTube does. I know I would put it into my page.

Anyway - just a suggestion (if this already isn't possible) - thanks!

holotone

2 years ago

If you click "Share this page" in the green bar right above the comments, you'll see instructions for embedding the poll on your own website. Click "Show the code" to, well, show the code ;)

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Raise it. $3 more shouldn't make a big difference.

Turn Downtown Into A Walking Mall!

Leave 1st ticket at $2, $10 second offense

Provide "Quick Stop" spaces

FREE Park 'n Rides with frequent Bus Loop through DT + UM

Create a Prolonged Parking Fine

Leave it at two bucks!

Costs more to follow the law than it does to break it!

Improve Enforcement

Alternative: Stop waiving fines for out-of-state cars

Paying for positive change?

Welcome shoppers, target abusers to increase revenue.

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